Jewelry, Earth Minerals, and Balancing Motherhood With Business | Jessica Hoch, Moxie Malas #039

Hello everyone. I'm Karissa Dunham from Shining Light on Minnesota. We have a very special guest here with us today, Jessica from Moxie Malas. Welcome Jessica. Hi. Thanks for having me. You bet. So, let's let our viewers know and understand a little bit what is Moxie Malas and how did you get into it? So, Moxie Malas is a jewelry company, but it goes beyond the jewelry and into the message of personal empowerment. And we have all kinds of uh workshops and retreats and experiences that we take people beyond their bracelet and into their intentions. Very good. So you started off back in the day with meditation and yoga. Have you always been into that? And how did you transform from the meditation and the yoga into the jewelry and into the crystals and everything? Yeah. It's really interesting because no, I was not always into it. Right. I was I was a distance runner, a soccer player, snowboarder, like all the things hard on your body and go go. Yeah. very intense and very competitive and you know um and then I was on a treadmill at LA Fitness one time and looking down at the studio thinking I wonder what they're doing in there and what that can do for me. Right. Right. Exactly. I was like h so I went and it changed my life. Amazing. I mean not only the physical aspect of you know it changed my gate as a runner you know my stride was easier longer faster kind of thing. Um, but the peace of mind that came with it and the personal reflection and evolution that came as a follower of the practice was huge. Yeah. And I think what people don't realize in the meditation and the yoga world, how that not only incorporates into your everyday life, but into your thought process and into just everything, all the all the full aspect, the full circle that it can have and change on you. Absolutely. Are you from the area originally? Yeah, I grew up in Shore View. Oh, fun. Mhm. So I went to Mounds View for a couple years. Very familiar with that one. Yes. Y and then Concordia Academy after that. But um yeah, I grew up in Shore View. Didn't go far. I think I've lived along Lexington my whole life. Oh, nice. I mean, other than college, you know, I went to W. Stout, but then uh which wasn't far. Nope, not at all. It seems like an extended Lexington, but we're good. Right. There's probably even a Lexington there. Um yeah, I mean, I thought I was going to be in New York City. I was going to move all this stuff. I have a degree in apparel design and fashion and got out to New York and went, "Oh, shoot. This isn't what I want, right?" And then came back. But I grew up in a family business, so I definitely had a soft landing and definitely was shown how you can build something yourself, right? So, and how do you find time in your day? Obviously, you have a family, too. You have your kids. They're seeing all the things, the cool things mom's doing. It's been around for 10 years now. That's a long time. How do you incorporate them into what you do and let them see that the sky's is the limit for them as well? Yeah, it's interesting because it's been evolving. So, I started this when I was pregnant with my second son. So, they've been around. I mean, it's been part of their whole life. And um it started out just being in the studio with me like, "Oh, what are you doing, mom? I want to make a bracelet." You know, they have their own box because I had my one son made a really expensive bracelet one time with really nice stones because I use all genuine stones and crystals. Okay. He goes to school and comes back without it. I'm like, "Where's your bracelet?" He's like, "Oh, my friend liked it." I'm like, "Okay, we're just going to hop it off their wrist and put it on theirs and not know anything about it." And Yep. I'm like, "Okay, here's your bead box." Yep. But yeah, so from that and now my my older son is 11 and he is curious now and wants to come to shows and he wants to work the booth and fun. And talk to customers. He loves people. Loves people, you know, and so being able to see that interaction. He also got to see me speak on a panel at a convention and he's like, "Oh, this is kind of cool." You know, what have been some of your favorite, you know, speaking parts and panel discussions that you've had so far? I just had a panel discussion this spring about, "I bought a crystal, so now what?" You know, and that was Yeah. What, you know, people are like, "Stones and crystals? What is this woo woo?" You know, but really it comes down to vibration intention. We're we are vibration and frequency and so are the stones and crystals. The only difference is ours is always ebbing and flowing, right? And so the stones help us to find balance. And so it was fun to do the panel to hear what the other panelists had to say and their thoughts about how to use them and different things. And then also to hear what the crowd was curious about. Y so and kind of what they what they think about it. Everybody they're not always open-minded to to the world of astrology and into crystals and things like that. tell people how you incorporate the the crystals and everything like that with the zodiacs everything that's out there too with the zodiac. So I just launched my zodiac collection which was very exciting. Uh we changed it up. So we had a zodiac collection for seven years and I had based those on the personality types of each of the zodiacs and what stones and crystals would bring balance based on your supposed personality of your sign. And this time we did a little different. And I worked with a sound healer who used radesthesia testing to find the frequency match of the stones to the planets. Oh, nice. So NASA has some recordings from the different planets. And so they used frequencies to see what would align and each zodiac sign has a ruling planet. Cool. And so each bracelet for the zodiac is a 100% frequency match to your ruling planet. So it really supports all energies um based on this planet that kind of influences you. What about with the way the world's going and the planets changing and growing and evolving? Do those stones and do the the options for the stones and the healing aspect change? No, the stones are still going to keep their frequency. The planets still have their frequencies, their positions, yes, will change, you know, how we each individually react. And what's unique about that, too, is that each of us has our own chart, right? You know, unique down to the minute that we're born. Y and um you know so having the stones and crystals or the bracelets for your sun, your moon, your rising let's say so the big three we call them is going to be really supportive to bring you balance as all these crazy things are happening in the world and huge astrological things that are happening 2025 is the year. Yeah. And so just the more that people can connect with their own vibration and connect with their own energies their own intentions and keep themselves level and present and all the things. Yeah. and present and balanced while there's chaos going around, right? I just had my Moxie monthly bracelet this last month was the chaos and the calm. Oh, yes. So, how do we dance with both? Well, and because as a female, as a mom, as business owner that you are. Yeah. And all the other things that go on in the world, it's like one of those things you have to learn to Okay, I'm here. Like, be grounded, how to land. Yep. Absolutely. Have you found that when you did yoga, meditation, things like that that people were still a little unintentional with it? They're just there to be there and not trying to find their peace and their calm. I think that you'll find that in any kind of activity or practice because people are so in their own heads and so all over the place, right? And I would say that as a teacher, I mean, I don't want to judge, you know, why people are there, what their intentions are. There are definitely people who go to yoga as a physical practice, right? They want to work out, they want to get fit, they want to get it flexible, that kind of a thing which you know the practice is for everyone. Absolutely. And you are also allowed to use it however you want. So I would say there are some people who deep dive deeper into the philosophy like the like ashtanga the eight or eight limp path things like this versus like I'm I'm here to do the splits right. Yeah. Like I'm just here to say I'm here or I'm here to you know let's let's just get more flexible. I'm here to nail my handstand, you know, which is, you know, if that's a goal of your life and that's what you want to work on, I think that's great, too. I'm not sure, you know, there's no one to judge. It's just you're there and that's great that you're there, you know. Right. Exactly. So, what do you tell people when they want to get into crystals? What what their purpose is and how they find the right ones that work for them. I would say it's definitely all about intuition, which is interesting because some people like I you know, I'll say if you go into a rock shop Yeah. you you will be drawn to the ones that will serve you. Yep. Right. And so you'll go in and you might feel something and people like these are rocks. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't feel anything. I just see it and it's pretty and we're good. Yeah. Or whatever. It's I love that you say that because you know it's pretty. Yes. Your eye is drawn to it. But there's something else. It's your intuition, right? People I think our intuition is so subtle and also sometimes really strong just depending on the situation. And I think people need to give themselves more credit, right? You know, so when we're drawn to something like that and you can walk in and say, "Oh yeah, this is this is for me." You trust that. Now, if you walk in and you're like, I feel nothing still and you might be in a place in your life where you're like really shut down, really low, knocking the world off, right? And we've all been there. I mean, I've been there. Holy cow. So, I would say I would suggest starting with rose quartz. It's widely available. Y very affordable and it touches on our heart and our heart has 108 energy lines that intersect more than anywhere in our body. Yeah. you know, so if you go into a rock shop, I would say go for rose quartz if you're feeling a little lost. Otherwise, um, obsidian, amethysts are great. Others, trust your intuition. You'll know. Do you have people that come up to you and be like, "Okay, this is what I'm going through. This is where I need my peace. This is where I need my calm, and you can help guide them into, you know, what might work for them, might not work." Yeah, absolutely. We actually at Moxie Malas, we developed a bracelet workshop. Yeah. So, we walk people through creating intention, taking a reflective moment on their life. Where am I at? Where do I need balance? Yeah, we talk about the seven chakras, the main energy centers, how the stones and crystals can support that. And they each make their own custom bracelet with the stones and crystals based on your specific intention. Do you see that with the younger generation, they're kind of get more honing into their chakras and all their belief systems and everything like that versus some of the older generations is shifting a little bit. It's really interesting because I've been thinking about this lately actually and looking at my my numbers, my demographics and stuff like who's who is interested, right? And I would definitely say the younger generations are a little more open to it because it's so widely available now. I mean social media there's social media crystal everything is everywhere, right? I will say though the older generations are very much more into the self-study. Yeah. And the deeper meaning behind it too and the healing and what is my purpose and you know wait a minute what am I doing here? How can I reset because I've been through of life you know life. Yeah. Or Yeah. These long stories that people have held on to. I mean, I've read books with case studies where, you know, people are in their 60s and just seeing it, you know. So, I get those people, too, right? You know, and I think those are more, you know, the little bit older generation, I would say. Well, not older. We're not old, but well, 35, but like 35 to 55 versus like, you know, 20s, early 30s, I would say, are very much more self-aware. Yep. And and curious about themselves. Well, and I think like we were touching on the social media makes it a big thing. Obviously, you have the opportunities to get your ratings or see what your chakras are or just find out what people are doing to be more holistic, too. I think that's a big thing for sure. I know that instead of, you know, even in the medical world, let's take a step back and see how we can heal ourselves first. Right. Exactly. Yeah. And how our bodies are divine healers, you know? I mean, these machines are incredible, right? Yeah. Right. You know, if we just get out of their way sometimes, right? work smarter, not harder, but also, you know, just be at peace. And I think that's one thing that in everybody's world, I know I've talked more and more about it with people lately with all the multitasking, everything that you do, just being present and being there in the moment and being able to shut things off for a little bit and just have those conversations and Yeah. find out who people are and what their main purpose is, too. Absolutely. And that's one of our main soul's desires is purpose. Absolutely. Right. Why am I here? Yep. What's what's my purpose in the business and in myself and especially as a business owner, right? You're you're like, what are we doing here? And is this going to shift in the future? How am I gonna make this all work? Y and a lot of I think a lot of companies face that in 2020. I mean, I watched my calendar of events be wiped clean. Yeah. So then you're like, okay, how do I shift now? Now, do I do social? Do I do them in person? Do I get people here? What do I do? Yeah. It's pretty wild. How has your business changed in the last 10 years? I mean, obviously with the shift through COVID and through technology and everything like that, do you see more people starting to finally come back out and get into the store and find what's best for them versus getting online? I would say online shopping is still very very strong, especially when you link everything with social media. People are very boop in the moment and I'm buying it. Tik Tok sales everything like that. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. Um I would say though people are craving community and so the events and things like that uh like workshops and you know in January I used to do a big event and um we get a bunch of people there and come together to create intentions and just live on purpose right you know how do you tell people when they come and they say I I need to find purpose in my world like what what do you drive them towards do you help them with like the zodiacs and with the crystals or do you kind of start at the base where you at kind of how do you work through that? I always love to start at the base. Where are you at? Yeah. Because if you are not knowing where you're coming from, what's your like what your starting point is, right? Where how are you going to navigate forward? You know, this is where I am right now. And also that's part of part of our workshops. That's the very first thing we do these 12 areas of balance. Where are you satisfied? Where are you not satisfied? And also when we do that to do it with a lot of compassion and empathy for yourself and know that this is a snapshot of this moment, right? I think some people get really married to their um story. Yeah. They they get attached to their suffering because that's who they are. And then you ask, you know, what would happen if you set it down, right? What would happen if you, you know, looked at it in a different angle? Or I mean, you look back 5 years ago, 10 years ago, what was big then? It's like I live through like let's let's just keep going and see where we're at today. And that's an interesting one too is I see trends show up too about what like some I'll go to certain shows and it'll be all heart chakra all love and then all of a sudden there's been shifts and everything is about change. Everything is about finding your voice and then standing in your light and then okay now back to heart healing because I realize I'm trying to speak this truth but there's something in me holding me back. You know there's so many different nuances, right? Well, and everybody is always about change and how can I how can I grow and improve and with with the way the world's going, how am I going to survive and just everything like that. So, it's just trying to kind of bring it back down to Yeah. I think one of the biggest things when I talk about purpose is also reminding people that purpose is not a role that you inhabit, right? You know, my purpose is not mother. Yeah, I love that role and I'm going to embody it, right? But it's not a business owner. It's not any of this. Our purpose is who we are when we show up to do whatever we do, right? And I feel like when I'm teaching that, people's shoulders come down a little. They're like, "Oh, thank you." Right? I needed that. Like, I'm here now. I can just relax. I can show up into whatever I decide to do as me. And that's your purpose. You know, how you show up versus I got to figure out what's my perfect job or who, you know, what business am I supposed to start? It doesn't matter, right? You know, I mean, it does. It it matters, but it doesn't, you know, it's Yeah. It's not your Yeah. So, who are who are or have been some of your mentors that have gotten you deeper into the connections, the chakras, all that stuff? Uh, definitely doing my yoga training. So, I did my 200 hour at Core Power, but then when I went into my 300 hour to finish the 500, I was with uh Tanya Boyenzan at Divinati Yoga. Phenomenal, phenomenal teachings. Dove deep into the philosophies, the history of the practice and where it comes from of India, all of these things. It was just really beautiful to be steeped in such tradition. Have you done any traveling where you've studied meditation and studied all of that or is it more just kind of the local based? Um I have traveled but not to India. It's on my it's one of those it's like okay I need to go there now. It's on my list. I have small children right someday. One of those days. Yeah. I will be there. Um I have done retreats in Costa Rica and things like that too. And then I lead retreats that you know focus on meditation and personal transformation. Speaking of leading, do you see that when your kids obviously you've talked about like your 11-year-old getting out there and trying to start doing things. Do you see that he kind of follows in your footsteps and some of the things that you've said he's incorporating into his everyday life? Oh, yeah. Definitely. And it's it's interesting because sometimes he'll say things around adults, you know, that are very emotionally intelligent, you know, and they're like, "What? Where did this come from? Where did that come from?" And I was like, "Well, you know, yeah, he is my son. We're good. That's my kid. We talk all the feels, you know." And speaking of astrology, he is a Scorpio. Both my boys are Scorpios, so there's lots of emotion. Oh, for sure. Yep. So, just learning that. But yeah, and also they want to start a business this summer. They're like, "Mom, we want to do this this year." Okay. So important. Let's sit down and let's look at, you know, your plan. What's your plan? What are the brass tax of it? Because as much as I love the spiritual world and teaching and embodiment, I also love business. Yep. Absolutely. And let's let's see what the plan is and how we're going to incorporate it if it's going to be Amazon or what it's going to be or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. So that's exciting. Do you have people that come in that say okay you know like this is my sign like I'm a Capricorn I'm a Scorpio who would that align with? Who would it not align with? Or just want to dig in deeper with their zodiacs too. You mean like are there zodiacs that are more attracted to it than others or that or just wanting to know more about their signs and their zodiacs? Yeah, people do definitely especially when they are looking at the zodiac collection. And when I did this last launch, I actually did um a series of videos or 10-minute videos on each sign. Okay. So they know who they are and what their sign is and everything like that. Yeah. So like if you're a Scorpio sun, this is what it might look like. If you're a Scorpio moon, this is what it looks like. Or if you're a Scorpio rising. And so just seeing like how do these affect each other? And also knowing that you are more than your sun sign, right? Like our moon sign is very much our emotional body and our internal world. And then you know our rising sign is very much like the seat of our soul and how we show up you know versus how we're perceived. Y so it's really interesting. So with all the talk of zodiac chakra everything like that and being grounded in the world I know a lot of people are talking about the different temperatures too like you have the cold plunges you have the saunas you just having your feet on the ground getting out in nature things like that do you guide with that as well you know I haven't done I haven't guided with that because personally I'm still exploring it right you know I' we've done cold plunges we built one in our backyard y yeah um but I haven't done any guiding around it no I mean I I really love it and my son, my older son. I I don't know about ADHD. We haven't had any testing done or anything like that, but the dopamine aspect of it, he can kind of shut down. And I had him do a cold plunge of just his face in an ice pool. Yep. All his homework. Room clean. Done. Okay, we're going to we're going to do this once a week once, you know, we just need a little dopamine. Here we go. Yep. We're good. And when I do, you know, when I do an ice plunge, I feel amazing afterwards. And when my husband does it, sometimes he can feel really drained. So, it's interesting. or you get into like the red light therapy or just being barefoot in the world, just all the different things that are out there and then you start digging in deeper. It's like, okay, do you believe in life after death? Do you believe in, you know, all of the things? And it's like, how do you stay focused in your own little world without getting out there and seeing what else is out there? I think it's really, oh, how do I stay focused on this versus all of the things is hard, right? Well, you want to know, you want to learn so you can educate, right? And we Right. Well, yeah, that's the other part. So I do dabble in a lot of things so that I can share what I have found. Um but as far as like what my specialty is is stones and crystals and creating intention, you know, that's definitely my lane so to speak because I've had people be like you should do essential oils because a lot of the bracelets um can hold essential oils or IASa or getting out there and doing the cold plunges, you know, it's just there's so many there's so many different things. Yeah. And psilocybin, all these things. And so, um, yeah, I definitely am knowledgeable about a lot of different topics, but as far as diving deep on any of them and teaching further, um, I try to stay in my lane. Well, and there's people out there that do study those. So, let let me say I have a huge community. I have a broad circle of people that I know. So, if you want to know something more about that, let me introduce you. Absolutely. Let me connect. Let me connect you. I love connecting people because then when people need information about stones and crystals, I'm the person. You're the you're the professional in that area. Yeah. Right. Exactly. So, or meditation or yoga, that kind of thing. So, I definitely appreciate everybody's niche. What in the meditation world has changed in the last couple years? I would say there's a lot more of the apps that people have access to, which is fantastic. Like there's an app called Insight Timer. I I tell it to everybody. It's a free app. Yeah. I don't get any commission nothing. Right. Yeah. But it's such a huge well of knowledge from thousands of yoga meditation teachers. So you can really like listen to guided meditations or classes or you know ambient music that kind of thing. So I would say the accessibility to free resources is huge right now. Do you feel that that takes away like when people have yoga apps or meditation apps that that takes away from some of the world of like the connecting and being grounded or do you feel that they can really still get the same outlook on it when they do it? I think that your outlook can still be improved or worked on, you know, on your own. I do think that there is a benefit to the community aspect of it because that's what they say, right? We're more connected than ever but more isolated than ever, you know. So, yes, that's true. And uh I would say that it's such a great way to get people in the door so to speak or their toe in the water who might not otherwise. There's people like I did a it was 2021 January, right? So still things were like we were not gathering, you know. So we did a virtual retreat instead of an inerson one and I had people give feedback of I'm so glad you did this because I have debilitating social anxiety. So I would never go, but now I was able to receive this information. For sure. Yeah. You know, so there's those benefit. Well, and I think people's schedules these days are a lot more hectic. I mean, obviously having kids, things like that, too. Just being able to get out there and be in the moment when they have not really when they have time, they can always make time, but when they when they need to reset or when they need those things to have them at their fingertips to help them get in the door, too. Absolutely. And I also love to say too, like when you say make time for it, is remember that more than zero is winning. Like Right. Yeah. Any step is progress, right? If you if you stopped and you took three mindful breaths, you did it. Good job. You know, so I think people are like, I gotta sit for an hour and meditate. No, just short bursts, whatever it may be. Anything is better than anything. And the thing is, and the thing too is that like your spirit, your energy body, and all of that is going to love it and want more of it, right? It's going to just draw you right in. And pretty soon you're going to be like, "Okay, now all the other stuff is stuff, and I need to do this." Yeah. Do you feel that with the world the way it's changing with people wanting to learn more and wanting to educate and get out there that there's going to be more people that'll help promote and help understand the chakras and the jewels and the crystals and everything too? Yeah, absolutely. I have a training program actually where I bring people through a whole training series of how to lead the workshops and so then they go out and they lead workshops. Yeah. Because I think I was thinking about that the other day too about how When you get such good information or such something so healing for yourself, you want everyone to know. You're like, "Oh my gosh, this changed my world and I am so better off for it." I want to tell everybody, right? I mean, the same goes with the negative aspect, too. The more true that spreads almost more viral than anything. If you have a bad experience somewhere, but it still draws people and it makes them want to know what is this then, why, and where did you have the hiccup? Oh, yeah. People are like, "What's going on?" Yeah. Right. quick on social like, oh my gosh, here's the Reddits, here's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think's next for you in in your world and where you're at right now? Uh, it's interesting because I'm going through a lot of change right now personally and with my business. Um, I am really focusing on that Zodiac collection when I launched it and the series of videos was very wellreceived and I loved doing it. Oh, good. So, I'm going to be doing more educational series like that where they're free and they're just videos and just teaching about what are these concepts behind the jewelry on a little bit deeper level versus like the hang tag that comes with. Here's here's just the quick little tagline and so you can know more and understand it fully. How many workshops do you do and how many are you thinking about doing in the series with the zodiac? So, the zodiac I did 12 videos. Okay. You know, one for each sign. um for workshops with the bracelet workshops and things like that. It just depends on the month and the season how many I've been teaching those for seven years. Yeah. So I mean I can have four in a week or one in a month. It depends. Summer gets a little slower, right? Yeah. Which makes sense. I mean people are out and about and their their hustle's a little bit different versus the winter they need to kind of figure things out a little bit more. Yeah. What do you feel like in the business world with where you're at? Do you see growth as far as other locations? Are you going to stay right in Fidley or what do you think there? Everything that I do is so online that I'll probably stay just Fidley. I do have ideas in my mind of opening in a retail location. So my my spot in Fidley is by appointment only. It's really just my studio space. I also offer Raike out of there. Okay. And um but as far as like a retail location, I I've thought about it and having like a whole crystal shop and everything. I uh we have a huge garden in our backyard. Very cool. And we do a lot of canning and food preservation because we grow a lot of food. Yeah. And we're in suburbia. But I want to I want to open a store called like crystals and canning. I think it'd be fun. Just have like all of it. Well, because then you can have all the people in. You can do your canning, you can get your jewels, you can get the crystals, you can do the raiki. Teach classes on all of it. Absolutely. Let's just have it one whole one whole good shop natural. Right. So for people that don't know, tell them what Raiki is and how you got into that. Yeah. So Ricky healing, Raiki energy healing, uh is energy healing. Um so you're using the subtle energies of the person that you're working on and your own and any divine helpers that want to come in and helping to just remove energetic blocks or move energy within the body. And a lot of as a raiki practitioner, a lot of it is holding space, right, for people to just feel safe to do their own energy work and their own healing. Yep. You know. Yeah. So yeah, and sometimes it's hands-on, sometimes it's not. Traditionally, Reiki is hands off. You're not actually touching the person, right? Um, hands-on healing is also that would be more like I have my hands on your knees, for example, or whatever. Um, and you can kind of do a hybrid of both. I always ask, do you do groups or do you do one-on-one or how do you I do one-on-one for Reiki. Yeah. The way I've been doing it is one-on-one session with somebody where you come in, you tell me, you know, what are you working on? Do you have any pains in your body? that kind of a thing or any emotions that might be kind of wanting to move. Something heavy. Yep. Right. Shift. And so then we work with the energy centers based on that. And then I'll I'll kind of feel into, you know, what is going on. And then what I'll offer then after is a custom bracelet, too. So then here's the stones and crystals that we used. I'll lay crystal grids on them while they're receiving and then a bracelet to go with. What What are some of your favorite crystals for you and what what has worked for you? You ask me all that time. I know, right? What is your favorite crystal? It's like asking what's my favorite kid. I know, right? They all are. It just depends on my mood and my shifts and where I need to be, right? Yeah. I would say I love Garnet personally. I just love it. It is very grounding, very stabilizing, and then re-energizes all seven chakras. So, it's just a really beautiful stabilizing stone. Yeah. Yeah. Do you study and do you know obviously you know your zodiac sign and how how does that incorporate into your everyday life? My zodiac? Yeah. So, I'm a Virgo sun, but then I'm a Sagittarius moon and a Capricorn rising. So, I have a lot of earth energy happening in my body and a really and like my aura, whatever. Yeah. And that's going to be very like grounding, organized, that kind of a thing. But then that Sagittarius moon is very fiery. And so, I've had people say, "Oh, you're not a typical Virgo." You know, I'm like, "I know. I got that Sagge in there." Yep. I I've got a little bit of that in there. We're good. Yeah. So, I got that creative fire, but also the stability to keep it moving forward kind of thing. Do you see that when people are out there, like, let's say they want to have a bachelorette party and they want to come in and get jewelry, that they do it all together to try to kind of hone in and get to the moment? Yeah. Usually what they'll do is have me come in to their location. Yeah. And I'll teach that workshop. Very cool. Yeah. And lead them through it and have something a little bit more meaningful to take away from that. Or I've also had brides say, "Oh, I want to gift, you know, a custom bracelet for my bridal party." Do that, too. Well, very cool. Who have been some of your other clients and how do people get a hold of you when they are out there? Yeah, I've done a lot of um collaborating with some TV personalities that are like in the paranormal field. Y um and so usually I mean you can reach out via email or just from the website. I'm very easy to find, very easy to get a hold of. social media. Yeah. Any of those you can reach out and then I walk you I have a form you can fill out and everything and walk you through the process of co-creating what is what is this bracelet that represents you, your business, your clients, you know, the meaning behind what what you're doing, your message. How do you see a shift with the paranormal and with the way people are starting to let more out about that and the afterlifees and everything that's out there? Do you see more people coming to you saying, "Hey, I need to get peace or I need to see what this is or fully understand what I am seeing." Yeah, I do have a lot of people, but mostly when they come to me, it's for protection. Yeah. They're like, I need stones and crystals that are going to protect me from this negative energy or they want to heighten their intuition. I'm seeing this thing. I need to understand what it is and how can I amplify it? Yeah. So, that's where people are coming to me uh for stones and crystals usually. Cool. And do you have people if they want to get in touch with what they're seeing, what they're feeling, you have the connections of here's some people that'll help guide you through those, too. For sure. I do. Yeah, I have connections to people who teach um like psychic development courses, things like that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't teach that, but I But you know, people, right? Yeah. All those all the people, right? Yep. Exactly. How do you think with the younger generation that are out there that are starting to feel things, see things, getting on the internet that just it's another fad. It's another thing that's out there. How do you help them understand that it's not just a fed that it's an actual thing that'll help heal you? I think that it's more or in order to do that, it's about teaching them to listen to their intuition and teaching them to really come within. This is your gut instinct versus what it's right. Gut instinct versus intuition too and even teaching what's the difference there, right? And how they dance with each other. And um I would also say it's not a fad because it doesn't go away, right? You know, it's still there. It's still there. It's still your intuition. Energy is always going to be there. Your intuition is always going to be there. I will say your intuition can get loud and it can get quiet, right? Because how loud is your mind, you know? So I think it's more about teaching them to be aware of their own energy body and how they are navigating that within all of these other energies. Right. That goes back to that the chaos and the calm. You know, you have all of this noise around you. What is what's the sound that you make? Right. You know, and how do you keep that calm? Yeah. Right. Yeah. And and how do you And it's not to say that like calm is the only way. No, I mean we have emotions like I've I've talked about it's okay to have the emotions. Sometimes you need those to get back to where you need to be, too. Well, and our emotions are like a compass, you know? They're telling you, "Hey, something's out of alignment here." Okay, so let me be curious. Why am I angry? Like, why am I want to flip tables, right? Or what am I seeing? What am I feeling? Like, why am I scared? Fear. Yeah. Why am I fear? Why do I fear? How can I move that into courage? How can I move my anger towards wonder? You know, all of these things. Yeah. So, I would say that the paranormal, the psychic abilities, the energies, Yeah. that, you know, they're calling it the great awakening, right? Absolutely. Um, it's not a fab because it's a once your eyes are open to all of it, you can't close them again, right? You know, it's there, right? Well, and a lot of times people are like, "Hey, I saw this on TikTok. I saw this on Snap. I saw this somewhere on social media or someone was wearing it." Yeah. I want to do it to be like them. Well, no. Find out why you needed what the goal is. What What's your purpose on it? Yes. That's so that's such a big deal because when I teach these workshops I teach about the crown chakra and I talk about how it's our connection to the divine or something bigger than ourselves but really important piece of that with stones with crystals with the chakras is that it's not it doesn't belong to anyone belief system these are vibrations these are energies these are tools that you can put in your tool box and it's important I would say to stay connected to a lineage that is meaningful to you right whether that's a religion a do whatever that is for whatever that higher purpose is yeah Right. Maybe it's nature, maybe it's via humanity. Whatever it is, it's important to find teachers that are going to keep you connected and rooted and grounded in that truth. Yeah. While you're exploring as well, because you can get lost. Well, you can get lost. And sometimes the more you know, the more it could help you grow, but it could also get you deep into a path and yep, a rabbit hole that you don't need to be at. And I've seen that too where people so we have our bottom three chakras which are very much our connection to earth and our external world and our top three which are very much our internal world and metaphysical and the spiritual right and then the heart marries heaven and earth or inner and outer world but people will all a sudden come up here and now they're out of their bodies too. So they're and they're having a hard time processing things because they're not using their earthly body to, you know, stay here and grounded and then they're spinning, you know. I mean, I've been up there, too. I think everybody has. It's different times, different things. And absolutely different life experiences, traumas. Yep. Or just life and trying to figure out what works, what doesn't work day in day out. You never know. Yeah. Mhm. With your kids up up and cominging business and your husband doing what he does and all the things, how do you make time for home life and try to separate the two or do you bring them kind of marry them both? I think I we kind of marry them both. So my husband owns two businesses as well. And for example, my boys don't have school today, right? But I'm here. Yep. Right. Okay. So they're at work with dad right now. Yep. Absolutely. Y So there, you know, I grew we both grew up in family businesses. So my husband runs his family business. I grew up in a flower shop. So we both are aware of like children being in the workplace. Absolutely. And so it they're all it does together. If I have a show, you know, my son Theo came with me to the show. Oh, for sure. Yep. And I think we've all done that. You know, had the kids are like your selling point, too. They'll be like out there and be like, "Hey, mom, this person needs this or I've seen this mom. Like, let's let's help them out. Let's do what we can do. Okay, let's let's do it." Yeah. Absolutely. I mean that being said, it's also important though too to have that balance of like last year I flew 10 times I think for different shows. Delta's like thanks for flying with us for 10 times. I was like I don't I don't want to be gone. I was like thank you for pointing that out. So just being aware of where am I putting my time especially if my time is away from my family and just making sure that it's in alignment with what I'm trying to create because kids only grow up once too and you start losing that and it's like okay where are you now? you're 21 and 19 and whatever you are, all the things. Yeah. I think it's fun though, too, to see them wo with any child or any kid or anybody out there to be really inclined in what you're doing and saying, "Okay, mom's mom's making a difference. Mom's mom's found her why." Yeah. It feels good. Yeah. It feels good to be that example. It's interesting to like, you know, I think, how do we get people to, you know, know that anything is possible in their lives, you know, and how do we get them to heal and this and that? Yeah. And I just heard so loudly like intuitively, you know, you don't. You just have to be the example. Yep. You know, just by example. Yes. Lead by example. And it was in anything, right? They're like, hm, that's interesting. Okay. Now, I'll take a step back and think about that a little bit, but we're good. Not overthink it, but yeah. Let's incorporate that into life. Yes. Easy enough. Yeah. What do you think will be with social media, the way it's going, the trends are going on there with your online business? Do you think that that's going to keep growing and changing or do you think that that'll kind of stay where it's at? What do you want to do with it? That's what I'm going to be focusing on growing and changing. Yeah. I want that's where I want to bring more education, more videos. I realiz, you know, when you think about what lights you up, I light up when I'm teaching. I love teaching. And so, I thought, why don't I just keep doing that? And so, and I was so worried about how do I price these workshops, package them, this that I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to put the info out there. I'm going to be out there. Yeah. The more people can find you and understand and learn, the more they're going to be drawn to you and try to find out more and the next and the jewelry and the zodiacs and everything, all the things, right? Yeah, definitely. Well, what people don't understand, too, is the more you're out there, the more people, whether they like it or not, they educate themselves, right? And they they want to know more and they do come to you at the time. It might not be now, but it might be in the future. It's why we do podcasts and we do all the things. Let's let's grow together. Let's help you get up get your name out there and find your why too. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's interesting to have people who been following me for years, never bought anything and also the place an order. How'd you hear about us? Oh, way back. Oh, I saw you nine years ago. Yeah, this is your first order. Well, welcome. Thank you. Yep. Well, it's hard too. I mean, in in my world is trying to remember faces and names and but hearing their stories and finding their why and being able to say, "Hey, I might have made a difference in your life today or somewhere in the future. Let's let's figure that out." Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Where in Fidley are you and how can people get in touch with you and have classes or make jewelry or find out the zodiacs, all of that stuff? Yeah, in Fidley we are on Old Central between Osborne and 72nd. We're right across from the American Legion. Yep. But we're in like a manufacturing building, so it's not it's not anything fancy. It's our studio. It's by appointment only. So, you'll need to reach out via the website. I have a email contact form there. Okay. Um, but the website will have everything. The website has our trainings, it has our retreats, it has upcoming events and all kinds of stuff. And if you want to collaborate, there's a contact page on there you can. Okay. Good. So, if people want to do their own yoga meditation or do their own jewelry at their site, that's how they can get a hold of you, too. Yep. Absolutely. And then I do have two apps. I have the Moxie Malas app and then I have the Moxie Life app. Okay. And the Moxie Life app has um yoga meditations that I'm going to be uploading on there. Perfect. Yeah. And is there a cost to doing some of the yoga meditation on there? Is that all free or how do they I do have it right now is there's a $10 membership per month. Yeah. Um for the full library, but I do have um like sample meditation just so they can try it out and see what they think to get in get them in the door and see how it heals them. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. Well, we appreciate having you on today and we look forward to the future. And then on Thursday when this rolls out, we'll do a nice little blog post about you and your business and everything else. Sounds great. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks for having me. [Music]