Nutrition and Staying Strong at Any Age | Jordan Davies, Complete Performance #078
Karissa Dunham sits down with Jordan Davies of Complete Performance to talk about nutrition and staying strong at any age. She will hold YOU accountable.
Karissa Dunham sits down with Jordan Davies of Complete Performance to talk about nutrition and staying strong at any age.
She will hold YOU accountable.
Host Karissa Dunham sits down with Jordan Davies of Complete Performance in Blaine for a real conversation about nutrition, work life balance, being a mom, and staying healthy and strong at any age. Jordan leads the adult programs while her husband runs the kids programs, all built on sustainable habits instead of quick fixes.

Hello everyone. I'm Karissa from Shining Light on Minnesota. I'm super excited. I'm at Complete Performance here in Blaine and I have Jordan with me. Hey Jordan. Hey. Thanks for having me. Yes. So, it's been a long time and I've been trying to get you on forever. Yes. And we're here. We're We finally did it. Yes. So, let's tell everybody a little bit about Complete Performance and what it is. Yes. So, Complete Performance is a gym here in Blaine and my husband and I own it together. We focus on family fitness where he trains all youth athletes and I train all the moms and dads because we were training separately and we wanted to give the parents no excuse to get their workouts into and it's fun to have parents and kids work together. So let's talk a little bit about the nutrition aspect of it first. Yeah. Yeah. So I am a certified nutrition coach which I think is becoming more common in personal training but I think is really unique to me. I have two different certifications and I really fell in love from my own personal experience with nutrition and I played college sports and it was you got rewarded for what you ate or you got punished and you didn't eat because of it. Y and I didn't want people to have that same experience, right? Um, I know a lot of people came with an athletic background or some background in they wanted to lose weight or they wanted to tone up this and they wanted to try this fat and we just needed to restore that relationship with food. And I'm happy that we can provide that. We provide custom meal planning which is so so unique in this area. Um, who doesn't want to just be told what to eat and when to eat it, right? How much of it to eat and what to buy at the grocery store. Those yo-yo diets work, right? Oh, absolutely. Totally. Yeah. So, how long and tell everybody a little bit about your college experience and kind of what brought you in here into Blaine. Yeah, I swore I would never be a personal trainer and here I am, right? Uh, I was pre-physical therapy which actually in my opinion worked really well for now my career because I spent all of my time with physical therapists with OT's with doctors learning what is it that they're looking for and what is it that they're doing to bring more of a medical approach a science approach to training. But I played college softball. I got my undergraduate degree in exercise science and psychology. Y and then went on got a very spontaneous ask to be a graduate assistant coach at St. Kate's. Y and got my masters in holistic health which I had no idea what it was when I started because nobody does. Tell everybody what holistic health is because a lot of times people what they think and what it actually is different and so the great part was I got to create what I wanted it to be which is ultimately what holistic health could be. It's your focus on all areas of health. You're looking at the mental, you're looking at the physical, you're looking at the emotional, the spiritual, and you're bringing it all together and you put your focus wherever. I had we have so many electives that you have to do. And I think all but two of my electives I did as independent studies because my professors I just pitched new ideas of where I wanted to study, where I wanted to do research and they let me and they were so gracious in wherever you want to take this you take it. So I did a lot of research with college athletes. I worked in obviously with my team at St. states and then at a different college studying football players, baseball players and hockey players and how they recovered with sleep and so I got a lot of experience and learning what do these what do these kids want? What are these kids who are very I mean they are adults by age but but they're still kids still kids right in that they're in this transitional stage of how do we take kidthood to adulthood and how do we make nutrition and wellness a a key portion of that which because these days compared to when you were growing up when I was growing up is so drastically different like you look at even the lifestyle you look at the people yeah and how they looked compared to where they are now and what they think about on a daily basis. It's insane. I mean, you get people who I find they're on either end of the spectrum. All they do is think about food. Y or they never ever think about food, right? And they're both in really unhealthy positions, right? We have eating out which is more accessible than it ever was, right? And you have food which is in grocery stores honestly more expensive than it's ever been, right? And so you're really stuck in this pickle of what is the right thing to eat, right? Can I afford it? How do I make that fit in my already busy lifestyle? Right? And is it even if you're in the middle, is it both still Yeah. feasible? Yeah. Yeah. How do I how do I how do I work with this? And I think that's we have a very all or nothing mindset as Americans. And I think nutrition and fitness are perfect examples of that. I'm either going to eat the totally organic chicken breast or I'm going to go to McDonald's and I'm going to get a McChick. And there's no there's no in between. And eating even if you try to eat healthy at a McDonald's, it's still processed and still what it is. So yeah. Exactly. And I my philosophy is that let's make the best possible choice given the scenario. And if your option is you chose McDonald's McChick over, you know, a large fry, a Coke, and McFlurry. Yeah. Like you made you made the better choice, right? You got some protein in. You you went away from the super sugary, super processed, super transf. That that's a win to me. Y can we still do better? Absolutely. But better than what it could have been. Right. So tell everybody a little bit about some of the things you have here at complete nutri complete performance. Sorry, I'm talking nutrition now. I was going to say complete nutrition. Um that people can do that are a little bit out of the ordinary. Yeah. So we run group fitness classes which are we call strength class and it is very different from your traditional strength class or your traditional group fitness in that we want you to lift weights. I want you to know how to squat and deadlift and bench press because you're not going to do those in your everyday life, but you're going to do movements similar to that. I just had a conversation this morning with somebody. She's like, "Overhead stuff is so hard. I don't know why I need to do that." Well, you lift stuff. You just saw me lift stuff off of these shelves. Like, I had to take stuff off. And that's a key portion of what you're doing in every day. Groceries, right? You're lifting stuff down and up. Yep. You know, and then we have semi-private training, which is personal training in a smaller group setting. And I think everyone thinks personal training is really expensive, and it can be. It absolutely can be. And the reality is not many of us need somebody standing over them watching them do 10 push-ups in a row. Correct. What we can do is put you in a smaller group, get you a more individualized program, get you the coaching that you need, and not pay that higher price point. Y um I I do most semi-private training at this point. I love it. I think it's great. It It gives me a little bit more intimate coaching experience with these clients. But, you know, other pieces to us is we talked about the meal planning system. It's we can truly customize any recipe to what you need. We've talked about we bonded over gluten at first. Yes. Absolutely. Right. And I can put recipes in. I can say that you can't have gluten and it eliminates all recipes with gluten. Yes. Maybe there's a recipe we do for spaghetti in our household. Y we just swap out. I put rice noodles in instead. Yep. And the recipe works just fine. And it's so helpful to people, especially busy families. Oh my gosh, what's one thing off my plate? I I just need the list and I just need to go to the grocery store. There's so many allergies out there. Like someone has to do an elimination diet or somebody's doing a carnivore diet because they have to do it for health reasons, whatever it may be. Or vice versa. I mean, you just don't know what you don't know. Like there's there's health restrictions for whatever it may be. So yeah. And the cool part is within our meal planning app, we actually just built out a training camp. So you have an app, too. We do have an app. Yes. Um, and we just are finishing up the testing phase of that and we're bringing in more people, which means my clients who I've used Google Sheets with and hate the the dreaded Google sheet right now. We can put them in an app and they're in Virginia and Texas and Washington and they can still train with us or and can people who are not here do classes online? So, we don't have Zoom classes, but you can do workouts at home. You can do them wherever. Um, I've got a client right now in Costa Rica and she took I sent her some workouts in the app and she took them with and she's not going to miss a workout while she's on vacation. By choice. By choice. I think one main thing that people don't know is they want to be held accountable. And that's the big thing. Like it's not so much the one-on-one personal physical or the training, but it's being held accountable and that's what keeps them coming back. Yeah. It's hey, like yes, I have to be at the gym at 5:00 every morning, but do I want to get up? No. But I need to be held accountable to do it. Absolutely. And there are so many pieces that we set in place to make sure that that accountability stays high because I want to continue to grow as a business, but I don't want that accountability to get lost. Right. And so I tell people whenever they sign up, you're going to hear from me minimum twice a week. You're going to have either a conversation in the gym with me or maybe you are in Virginia. You're going to get a text from me. You're going to get a message through the app. We're going to have some type of contact to make sure. And if you tell me you're going to do something, I'm either going to I'm either going to set a reminder on my phone to check in to make sure you did it or I'm going to make sure that you do the same thing and send it to me. But that account I I joke I'm I'm an accountability cop by trade. Um I'm not actually a coach anymore, right? My job is to make sure that people do the things that they say they're going to do because I believe if you do that here, you're going to do that in your work with your family, with your friends, and it just continues to build. Right. So you have a lot going on here. Tell people some things about some of the groups that you have and some of the fun things that you have going on here. Yeah. So we within our strength class, we have a lot of people who have joined. We have a pickle ball league. Yeah. Um we love our pickleball league. Um it started my husband thought I was an old Keragin type of woman when I turned 30 because I wanted a pickle ball tournament for my birthday. And then pickle ball's a new pickle ball new thing. I know. And now like this is three years later and he's like I guess you weren't wrong. I'm cool. I want to play pickle ball now, too. No. So, we have a pickleball court in the back. Um, so we play we have a tournament every year. Um, we run a large wellness fair every year, which is one of my favorite events. I was there and it was amazing. It is a lot of work, but it is my vision for it is this is this is something that the North Metro has, and we are the source of that to bring wellness to so many different people. Um, and then within that too, I am actually the coach of the Special Olympics powerlifting team for Nova County, which is a group that comes in here once or twice a week, and I work with them. My clients are all planning, they're going to make some signs. They're going to come to the meet at the end of February here. And it's just a great way for our community to give back to the other community around us and to just bring us all together. Blaine is growing in itself. I mean, there's so many different things. It's not just the golf and it's not just the Super R anymore. I mean, there's so many different assets that are coming in. you have the baseball and you have the growth and everything like that and to have such a special special little place here that you can bring everything in. You have all the high schools that you're working with and all the colleges and everything like that too. It's it's very unique. Yeah, it's it's amazing to see all the different athletes we get from all around here. But I really do I'll I'll train anyone in the North Metro area who wants to, but to have Centennial in our backyard and Blaine right on the other side to be able to have those schools that I grew up here to have these kids coming in and having this thing that I didn't have when I was in school. Yep. Is really fun to see. Who have been some of your mentors along the way that have gotten you to where you are today? Yeah. Uh so my coach at St. Kate's, she we joke I actually just presented for her team last week and we butt heads like nobody's business when we started coaching together and now she's one of my biggest mentors, my biggest friends. I she gave me a book I think in our first week, the four agreements, told me to read it. I read it in a car drive and back and I read it every year. I read it at the start of every year. Y um but I also have my guys Michael and Pete who are they are my right and left-hand men. Um and they I mean they're they're my consults. I text them yesterday. They joke that I'm going to be the mayor of Blaine someday. I have no interest in being in politics, right? But they're like you how do you do this? I I texted them. I said, "Hey, I was just handing out some cars to some police officers at Target." They're like, "How does that how does it happen? It just happens." I mean, you do what I do. I mean, we've got the grind and we just do what we do. But everybody's like, "How do you I'm like, I don't know, but we just do it, right? You just get out there and you make it happen and things flow. When they flow, they flow and you just keep growing." Yeah. So, what are I know you're a part of a lot of associations and you're doing a lot of things and everybody's like, "How how do you make it all happen with the family? Let's talk a little work life balance." And that's not quite a thing. Like in our life, it's like it seems like when work's here, family's here and it just kind of shifts every which every which day, right? It is truly an art. Um, let's also just It's a balancing act. Yes. And like let's let's acknowledge the fact that like I was late here today because my son is potty training. Well, and I was late because the other work was here and Yeah. It's one of those I mean I'm with my son sitting on the potty and all of a sudden it's like, oh my gosh, I have to go. I'm never late and I'm like I'm actually running time as late. What is going on here? Like it's it's one of those things. Yes, it's it's truly a juggling act. And I I really this year was my my biggest focus is let's try to establish that balance a little bit better more for like my mental health than anything because I I love my job. I love what I do. I love being out in the community and meeting other people. It fuels me. But I also like I love my son. I love my husband. I have two dogs. I like I want to spend more time with them. And that's ultimately why we run a business is to create the life that you want. And it's having hard boundaries around these things. I made a commitment this year that Fridays I'm off Wednesday, Friday nights with my son and Fridays are a hard there's no activities. There's absolutely none. And I will say, do you come here and bring him here at all? We do. He'll he'll be here today. I mean, and he loves it here. I mean, he hangs on equipment time. Oh my gosh. It's like a heaven for him. Y but you know, it's it's having that dedicated time for him. You have to you have to have his time, his mommy dates or whatever. Yeah. Y we do Sunday pancake breakfast as a family. So I make pancakes. He loves it. He loves to watch. He doesn't quite understand that the griddle is hot, so don't touch, sir. Right. But it's it's finding things that are fit us as a family because we know when we had kids, we're going to have a unique lifestyle. Yes. I work before he even wakes up in the morning. Absolutely. And right now we're home in the middle of the day more than most parents, which is a true blessing. He's not there when he gets up and he might not be there when he goes to bed at night. It's finding a happy medium. Yeah. I mean, we we have the best nanny in the world. I swear. Nanny Anna is our like saving grace because she fits into our dynamic so well and allows for this to happen. And she's amazing. She's like fully understanding of and she listens to a lot of my maybe frustrations or complaints or brainstorms on business because she's she just wants to help and support us too. And so it's having this army of people around. I mean, my parents are always close and willing to help, but that's ultimate that's the only way I can keep this balance alive. You have to have a tribe of people to raise raise children. You really do. Like I've known that growing up. But and that was kind of one of my goals this year, too, is to be more intentional and slow down. And that's why I do the podcast to really get to know people because just like you, there's so many people you're around and so many people know you, but you don't really know them on a deeper level. And it's to get more intentional to try to slow down. And I'm not really slowing down. I'm trying to, you know, but the flow is there. Yeah. Like you got to have your down time and having things that you do on the side like like you're saying your Mondays and Fridays and having your kid time and things like that and I I do my golf just like everybody else does their things. What do you like to do on the side other than your family time for you? Yeah. Yeah, I do love pickle ball. Yeah. Um I run I started running this league because I love to play and it was yes there was some business component in it of hey like I get to play for free. these are potential leads coming right into my business. Yeah. But I'm also like I get I get to invite whoever I want to be in the lead. And so I've brought a lot of my friends, a lot of my clients into this. And now it's just it's fun getting to know these people and seeing things. But I I love my dogs. My I take my dog one of my dogs for a walk every day. How many dogs do you have? I have an Australian Shepherd in a mut. Oh, fun. They are mostly fun. Amazing. Yeah, they lot of barking. Yeah, a lot of barking. But they're I mean they're great. I love um little things. I mean I I'll go watch softball just because it's fun. Oh yeah, absolutely. It's in your blood. It's in my blood. I It's It's still a part of like, oh my gosh, I can sit there and just fall right back into the game. But I'm learning golf, so someday someday you can give me a lesson and teach me. We have some things coming up for that. So, we'll talk after this. Uh we picked it up during co and we lived we lived in a townhouse at that time. We were on the end unit, so we had the open patch of grass and like we just were chipping away and our neighbors are like, I mean, I guess everybody did it during CO. I mean, that's if that's the spot, you go for it. But yeah. So, let's talk. You had some promos going on December through March, some things, and especially January's been crazy. Yeah. Um, let's talk what you have coming up. Yeah. So, March is birthday month. And birthday month is representative of a lot of things. So, it is the month where we initially filed for our LLC to become a business. Yes. And how many years has it been? We opened our doors six and a half years ago. Wow. Amazing. Six months before the pandemic. Why not? Look what has grown into. Yeah. I mean, I know like on this camera you can't see the space, but we started with We'll do a tour when we're done and we'll add it to it so people get to see it. We just did this like tiny little section of the gym and it was maybe a quarter of it and now to have the whole space is is really cool and looking to expand in the next year is awesome. Um, but we have birthday month for that. It's my husband's birthday. It's my birthday. So, we love to go big or go home for this celebrate. It's kind of a fun time. It's traditionally been a large month for a smaller boutique gym like us because they tried the big promos elsewhere and now they're like that didn't work so but we're going to run a really fun challenge. We're going to run a referral program. We're going to be giving away some free memberships. So, lots of lots of fun things coming. So, what are some of the fun things that you've tried in the past to maybe tell everybody what you did December through through March just to let people know? Yeah, we we run a lot of creative challenges. So, we run ran 12 days of fitness. That is one of our staples. Um, we we'll run that's it's in the summer we run the big ass salad challenge. That's one of our that is hands down our biggest challenge. Yeah. Free salad recipes and all you have to do is show me that you ate a salad. I mean easy enough. Pretty easy. Um, but we ran a free promotion where it wasn't free but $99 a month for three months of membership. And that really, I mean, any type of deal like that, but get it under that $100 price point gets these people into the door and really allows them to like, oh my gosh, I can I can exhale a little bit because it's not so much of a financial burden, right? Um, and then March, we will run our booty builder challenge. So, it's all about glutes, all about hamstrings. We're really that has been our most asked one, and we will definitely most asked the most asked one. Um, but that Yeah, that'll be our our really big fun challenge coming in March. Well, we've had a lot of people that have been in here that have been part of the gym that have been on that are super excited in all the things that you're doing. What do you think as far as growth goes? What's your next goal? Yeah. So, we are hoping to take over a second space in either this building or our landlords are actually building out the next property. And so, what we want to do is we want to build a we want to have two spaces essentially. And I mean, if we're talking really big longterm, I want a full building and I want to bring everything really under one roof. My my dream would be to have a space for athletes to go, a space for our strength class to go. I would love to have like a community space where it could be we could have seminars or meetings or educational things and possibly if I could work it. I would love a kitchen to have like demos for that and bring that nutrition component in house. Um, and then a PT, a chiropractor, somebody on the body work side that's we work really well with and could bring in and really just have the full space exciting and bring your son in and have it have a day total family thing. So kids people could bring their kids in too and Yep. Absolutely. What do you think has been some of the obstacles that you've come across along the way? I mean the biggest obstacle we had to face right away was the pandemic, right? And I I think we handle that well. And my philosophy is always if we made it through that, we can make it through anything. But the the biggest is getting people to understand that we are different. It's really easy to say that you are different, but in a conversation on the street, in the grocery store to demonstrate that I I can't show you what a what a class looks like. Yeah. Um but I think it's it's personality, right? It comes to a lot of trust and showing who you are as a person, but showing up. Yeah. Yeah. Obstacles. I mean, we we rented space for a long time and and to have tiny spaces and having to get creative. I I'm a problem solver by nature, so to look at obstacles and and I see a lot of, okay, how do we work through it and how do we get to that solution? Because that's the fun part to me, right? How can I look at whether it's your knee and figuring out how how can we get you to still move in a workout or hey, we've got this tiny space, but we still have to get a workout in. What do we do? It's that's the fun part to me. How many times have you I know I've seen a lot of people but they're like hey I've worked with Jordan and I've you know reached my goal and how can I get to the next level or I'm not quite there. I'm getting frustrated because I'm at this plateau and I know plateaus are the biggest thing for people like oh I've lost this weight and I've done this and I'm just at this plateau and I'm giving up. Yeah, plateaus are are the hardest thing for people and they don't understand them. Yeah, it's it's hard. It's truly more mentally hard than it is physically hard. And I think it's it's refocusing on what that goal is. Right? Bringing that back up, talking through the science behind it. People can't argue with science, right? And saying, "Hey, just because the scale says the same thing for the last five days doesn't mean you've hit a plateau yet." Eventually, at some point, your body's like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa. Look where you're doing. Look what you're doing." Like, what's happening here? You want me to actually give up what you've put on me and built to this point? And that's that's hard for people to conceptualize. But when you can lay out the science and really talk through that plateau and some of it's pep talk, it's really Yeah. It's a balance of I'm going to split you with the science. I'm also going to hit you with the motivation of you've got this. You can do hard things. Whether that's work or parenting or fitness, you can What's your obstacle? What's getting in your way? Y as far as age limits go. What are some of the age limits that you work with? Let's talk about that. So, we train some soccer kids who are seven, eight years old right now. Y and my oldest client is 82. Amazing. And we actually have they're competing. We've got an 81y old who is actually my husband's first ever client who was at Experience Fitness. He still rose on the Mississippi periodically because why not? You lose it, you lose it, right? Yeah. Um and then my 82-year-old I she's she will always have a special place for me. I started training her daughter and her daughter brought her husband. Her husband brought her mom, so his mother-in-law. And now I train their kids. I train her other son. I train their grandkids. And it's like I train their I train her neighbors. I train the full street. And so it's truly like community. This is a true community. And I love just to see this family tree that worked out in our gym. How do you incorporate competition when when when people come in and say, "Hey, it's a boy versus girl." Or things like that team situation. So we are currently running our community challenge. We run it once a year. It's sixish weeks of for our strength class. We run the same workout all day long. Yeah. And there are standards of today they have to it's called thousand times stronger. So you have a thousand reps of everything. And unfortunately if you if it's just you and me that's a lot of reps. But if you have we can do it. Let's do it. If you have 16 people that workout gets a little bit easier. So we try to find creative ways to bring everyone in and channel a little bit of that competitive spirit. There are some people who they don't have a competitive bone in their body but they will buy into the community aspect. If it's if it's for the good of everyone here in the community, they're much more likely to participate where if it's like, man, I just want you to hit 1,000 reps because I told you to and it's just you individually. Yeah. No, there's no motivation behind it. Yeah. What are your hours and how do you get more people in the community involved and how do you get more people behind those reps? Yeah. So, our first session of the day starts at 5:15 in the morning and we run athlete sessions until 8 o'clock at night. So, we're usually closed most of the time in the middle of the day, which gives me gives me a little bomb time and gives me a little a little break. Um, but we I mean, we really go to a lot of networking events. We go to a lot of games. We really try to collaborate with a lot of businesses that we align really well with just to kind of, hey, I I want to support you, right? Whether that's you're the business owner and I'm going to train you for free so that you can promote it to your staff or your customers. We're more than happy to promote those things. Absolutely. and just finding different youth associations to bring in here because that we get not only the athlete but eventually we'll get the mom and dad too. Or if we get the soccer team then we're going to get the parents of the soccer team or if we get you know this association then we're going to get absolutely following association too. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think has been one of your biggest I'll say not one of your biggest obstacles but one of your biggest successes? Yeah, I mean it's really it's hard to deny making it through a pandemic, right? Um but I I think getting to this point where I have staff and I don't have to train all the sessions. Um I am I'm a workhorse and I I will work myself into the ground and so delegation is hard for me. But to be able to build the staff that I I would go to bat for any of them and I I love I have three guys who work for me and you know my husband's sometimes working for me, sometimes working with me, right? Yeah. Um, but I mean they're great humans and that that's what I really love to see if I wanted good humans as coaches, not just really good at exercise. And to see them having great relationships with our clients and being able to kind of take what I've taught them and and bring it into their own lens is really that's a true success for me. And I want to be a leader. I want to lead a community and to see them succeed is huge. and letting go of the res and saying, "Hey, wow, you're flourishing and doing it on your own and trying new things that maybe I wouldn't have thought of, too." Yeah. One of our night coaches just came back. He was looking for a part-time job when he was finishing his uh associates. Then he came back when he was getting his fouryear, interned with us now. He's just finishing grad school and is now back to work for us for the third time. And he's like, "If if we can work together to make this like a long-term full-time thing, he would love it." And why not? Absolutely. You are you are absolutely the type of human we want. What type of positions are are you looking for? Like if someone were to say, "Hey, I want to come. I want to help you grow. I want to bring something to the table." Yeah. Yeah. I mean, hey, social media interns. Uh um because gosh knows you're not on social media at all, just like I am. Yeah. Never. Never. Ever. Um no, I think that the next big piece for us is really finding is finding a creative and administrative assistant for me. Yeah. But they have to like they have to know me. Yeah. And work well with me because I had one and I wouldn't say that we were very different personalities which initially you think that's kind of what I need, right? I need you to understand. You have to know me and what I'm looking for and what I do and Yep. You have to understand a little bit of the crazy, a little bit of the ADHD and where it all goes. But, you know, we're always looking for great coaches, too, because follow me for a month and see it all like home business everything. I'll take the dog leash and I will just bring you along with and the kid will be sitting there in the toilet. Let's just do it all at once. Yep. You got to be able to read Lion King and Spider-Man and and I'm multitasking and I'm going to do it all and I'll be leading the class and I'll be cooking the dinner and let's let's do it. We'll get it all done. And we'll be networking and handing out the cards to the officers and whomever else. Yeah. Your hair may be on fire, but like what? It's gone. Who cares? Who cares, right? No, I mean I we we always look for good coaches, right? If we have people who want to be a part of a community, they want to bring their clientele into a space that really fosters this community sense. They like the vibe that we're putting together. Those are the people that we want to bring in because it's it's not all about I don't they don't need to be my clients. They they need to be a part of our community. They need to be Yeah. our community and our people. And you work well with other places too like a Pilates Grow Strong Pilates or other places too because it's all one community, right? Absolutely. We we love working with Grow Strong. We love working with the training rooms, health and wellness in general because that's part of the whole community. We recognize we can't do it all. And we recognize I'm not the best fit for everybody. And so if we don't have the best fit for you, I want to help you so that you do find the right fit because if you took this initiative to find what is healthy for me. I want to start working out. I want to help you find it because I don't want you to lose that and and run away from it. Right. Or at the same time, you want people to do that to you, too. Yes. Right. Hey, I'm going to go there to work on my health and wellness, but I need a gym. Yeah. Yeah. Or I want training or whatever it may be. Yeah. And good refer. I I refer good providers. They refer good providers. And that's how we build a great network. Absolutely. And we're we're in Blaine where it's it's a small community, but it's a big community. I mean, North Metro is is what it is. You know, it's it's growing. Well, it's not going to be small for long. No. No. We have a lot going on here. What is your favorite quote and what's your driving force? Two questions. We'll start with quote first. Oh boy. On the spot with a quote. Yes. Um, and now we'll go silent, right? Now we got the silence. Um, I mean, I'm a huge Michael Jordan fan, so any any Michael Jordan quotes are really my favorite. I know I'm not wearing Jordan. I was say, where are yours? I normally see with them on. I think I think they're over there, but um I do have a lot of Jordan shoes, but um any Michael Jordan quote is usually my favorite. Um which is fine. We can go past that. Um, what's your why and driving force? My why is really community. I've always I mean I've always known I'm meant for more than just like your average ordinary 9 to5. I'm different but a lot a lot alike most people. And so being that leader for a community to make other people who maybe feel they're a little bit different, they don't totally fit in, but they know that they're accepted is a place that I want to build for people. And then I mean I got a cute little two-year-old son who is he's always gonna be my why at this point. I want to show him that mom works really hard, dad works really hard. Look at the community we built. We're doing this for more than just money and to have all of these nice things. We're doing this because of the people around us because we want to continue to put good into this world so that this world becomes a better place. What do you want for your clients when they leave here? I want them to know that they're cared for, know that they're loved because I think Most people go through a day and they maybe question if anyone ever really cared if they were okay. I think we ask how are you all the time and you get good or I'm okay, but you don't you don't get true answers. And I want them to know that they came in here and they were cared about and it wasn't just because they came in to work out. It wasn't I cared that you worked out. I cared that you had some family stress today. I cared that you had a really great day at work and you got a promotion, right? you cared that you finally lost 20 pounds or you lifted this new weight. It's those are the the big wins that they're they're cared about. We celebrate wins a lot here and I'm always I'm always down to celebrate people's wins. It's amazing how many times a person goes through the day and says, "How are you?" And they're like, "Oh, I'm good." And you just keep walking past. I'm like, "Oh, are you really okay?" Or, you know, what's going on? Get to the deeper part of that or get three levels deeper and let's let's work past that. I mean, I remember in I remember reading a book and somebody the author said, "Try answering honestly." And and hearing what people say, and I can't tell you the number of times I've answered honestly and people weren't even listening, right? Or they answered back to me and it was like we had a full conversation that you would never expect. And that question is so overused, but it is so so valuable. Or you listen to their tone like I'm okay. Like okay, why are you just okay? You know, like what's going on? Yeah. Yep. Tell me more. Yeah. So, how are you today? I'm great. This is this is great. I I really appreciate this. I know we've talked about getting on the podcast for a long time and you know, the flexibility of working with the sun sitting on the potty for 40 minutes and absolutely being able to have conversation about who I am and what I do and just listening about what my passion in is is great. And I sharing it with the community and it's getting it out there, but it's it's getting to know you on a deeper level, too. So, yes, it's a lot of fun. Well, we appreciate having you on today. We're going to share it with everybody. If you could leave anything with everybody listening, what do you think that that would be? Find your fit in fitness. And that sounds pretty cliche, but there's there's a fit for everybody. It It may be strength class with me. It may be Pilates at Grow Strong Pilates. It may be walking or cross-country skiing. Find your fit because moving your body is what's going to keep you going. And there's not an age restriction or limit to it either. No. Amazing. Well, thank you so much, Jordan, today and I appreciate you. Thank you. Yes. Thank you guys. Keep shining light.

Karissa leads business development at Sun Control of Minnesota and hosts Shining Light on Minnesota, sitting down every week with the business owners and leaders who are building something good across the state.